The Arizona State Parks Board requested that the public have easy access to public comments about the budget. This page catalogs email communications received January 13 – February 26, 2010.
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My family and I have spent much time in these parks. My wife does NOT like to dry camp. If you close ALAMO then we will not be collecting rocks in Arizona in the future as my wife likes toilets and water from the faucet. We spend about 1000 dollars per week when in Arizona both for food, lodging and the time at ALAMO Res. camping with facilities. —Robert, Penn Valley, CA
Please don't close the park. We have been coming to AZ for 10 years now & I still haven't made the walk on the longest trail, you are cutting off my dream of making it to the top. —Jean, Hudson MI
This is a sad and illogical time for your state. Bad enough that you closed you rest facilities. I guess tourist dollars can go elsewhere...New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, California. —Connie, Victoria, BC
The State of Arizona should be ashamed of itself for closing these places! To base their choices of the money-making ability of the parks is a tragedy. State parks should reflect the heritage of the state, both natural and historic. Arizona is one of the most fascinating and beautiful states, yet the government here doesn't seem to recognize that or respect it. I am ashamed! —Rose
I am MORE than a little dismayed re: the number of AZ state parks which are closing. My family frequents these parks and they are the few economical options for families and retirees. A major frustration is taxes are not decreasing but services ARE. Other states such as WA have created plans to increase park useage. The conclusion which I have drawn is that the decision makers are NOT park users. GRRRRRRRRRRR! —Sue, Glendale, AZ
comments: I was planning to spend some time in Arizona next week on my way east, now I'll be passing through non-stop without leaving any of my wealth there, Arizonians, be aware the Parks people have little leeway to respond to directives from the top state level, this is a political decision, the people of the state are the pawns, only a change in the political power at the state level will make any change. —Will
My husband and I heard of the closing of some of Arizona's State Parks - We have visited Arizona many times and love the area - especially northern Arizona. My husband is a retired police officer and I have an MA in psychology and worked for the US Postal Service. We were wondering if you would consider allowing us to live onsite and run one of the parks so that it wouldn't have to close. If there is any interest in this type of plan, we would be happy to discuss the details with you in person. Thank-you for your time and consideration. —Blanche, Cornwall, NY
This wasn't a very smart choice amongst you board members to choose for closing. This is a phoenominal fishery and we have the right as permit purchasing fishermen to use it! There are others on the "staying open" list that are better qualified for closing. —Will
This past weekend I visited Riordan Mansion and was amazed at the history that I learned while there. I had planned to bring my family when I learned that it is one of the parks that will be closed. Please reconsider closing this facility. Perhaps there are ways to reduce costs (volunteers docents, reducing hours, etc.) —Jan
Parks Committee:
I have lived here in Tucson for 13 years.
I have a 17 month old son who is too young to appreciate the great parks of this state. And, at the present he may never get to experience them.
I believe that the parks closings are short term devastating to the businesses and people in the immediate area. In the long run, they well be devastating to the children of this state.
On my way back from court in a different county, I have talked to business owners and locals who will be harmed by the shortsighted practice of closing parks to save pennies, while each closing has the potential of burdening the state with otherwise unnecessary unemployment, foreclosures, defaults, relocations, reduced income and property assessments, etc.
At the end of the day, when you open the parks, (or maybe sell them to for profit organizations), there may not be the local infrastructure to support the tourists.
I think that outright closure, without highly published local public hearings and comment, was an incorrect method of resolving absolutely poor fiscal management in other (non-parks) arenas.
Someone should look at the impact of the complete closings, vs., other less drastic measures. Also, solid "set in stone" reopening dates should be set to attract future plans by out of state tourists and tourism agencies, as opposed to total closure with no reopening dates. The present practice simply guarantees that out of state monies head to other states, with no consideration of being spent here.
Hopefully, the present plans are not as shortsighted and damaging to the state as they appear, and are backed by sound long term fiscal management. —Bob, Tucson, AZ
Dear ASP Board Members: I am a resident of Minnesota, but have a longstanding love affair with the Grand Canyon State. I attended ASU back in the early 1980s, and grew to love Arizona even more. Your deserts, mountains, rivers, canyons and STATE PARKS are among the most beautiful places on earth! Last week I had the extreme pleasure of camping at Roper Lake, which I would consider to be a crown jewel of the ASP system. Great scenery, friendly staff, reasonable rates, and a fabulous natural hot tub! I was greatly saddened to hear that the closure of this park would even be considered. I have reviewed the comments by both the Arizona people and visitors from across the US and the world...it's obviously shocking and beyond belief that this action has been taken, and even more shocking that Arizonans would permit this to occur. I am aurprised that they have not taken to the streets in protest. Parks are essential aspects of any state's heritage, pride, public health, and obviously, recreational opportunities. I certainly recognize the challenges you and other state park managers face today, but as others have pointed out, closing these parks would be nothing less than a major tragedy. There are numerous ways to deal with this financial challenge...but the current proposal is short-sighted and unacceptable. If you are truly concerned about economic issues at hand, please talk to the friendly gentleman at the Safford C of C. His overview of the financial consequences to his business community when Roper Lake is closed (LOST!) is sobering indeed. Thank you for your consideration, and I look forward to staying at Roper Lake when I come back to AZ next year! —David, St. Paul, MN
As a hiker, I am pretty concerned about the park closures. What will be the exact consequences? Will the area covered by the parks be completely closed or still remain accessible for hiking ? Thanks for your answer. —Julien, Phoenix, AZ
Ladies and Gentleman,
Neither myself, my family, nor ANY of my friends have ever been on the public dole. We work hard, pay and pay and pay our taxes, plan and save for our futures and live socially and fiscally responsible lives. Once again we are being punished for our conservative values and lifestyles. To close our state parks is patently unfair. We are tired of hearing how "unfair" it is to deny aid to slackers, criminals, misfits, chronic indigents and all those who seek to take advantage of our work ethic. We dont demand anythind, and are learning to expect less. We dont sue anybody. You will not find us in line for a hand out of any kind. But I must say, finally, after contributing to the public coffers for more than 40 years, THIS IS UNFAIR. Those of us that live in rural areas made the choice to do with out the perks (if you can call it that) of the big cities. We in Graham County are already economically depressed, as you know. With your decision to close Roper Lake, you are about to throw us into another economic "gotcha", not to mention taking away our little jewel that is Roper. Now, if we want to recreate, on our tax dollars, and after we have worked more than 40 -50 hours a week, for 30 - 40+ years, and yes, payed our taxes, we will be obliged to travel long distances and spend more money, and time. Maybe we should all just go to Disneyland. I don't think so. I implore you, please find a way to keep our state parks open. There are those among us who are working to find a solution. The operating budget for Roper Lake is miniscule compared to what needs to be cut to balance Arizona's budget. Our state parks are one of the few affordable pleasures left for families and retirees. The Govenor, our various state and local representatives and you are employed by us. We are the ones who pay taxes - and vote. Help us find a solution. —Marilyn, Bonita, AZ
Maybe we should close the entire state for awhile! There’s no place left to go anyway! Why can states like Montana consistently operate in the black? Kinda makes us look ignorant! —Dana, Tucson, AZ
Sirs, We in rural Arizona need some place to go and enjoy time away from home. Roper Lake is needed by everyone around here. If you are taking a beating on keeping our parks open, raise the fees. Don't make us or our children pay by taking our parks away from us. Our children already spend way too much time in front of games that don't take them outside, therefore making them obese and sickly. Past prectices show when something is taken away from us we never get it back. Please let us use our freedom to keep these parks open. —Marion, Clifton, AZ
I read that the park will be closed. I'm visiting from Switzerland and particularly wanted to go to this park (and others). what does closeure mean? Just no facilities, or really no access at all? Please let me know wexactly, as this will affect my holiday plans immensely. —Marcus, Hofstetten
Roper Lake SP, Tonto Natural Bridges, SP, and many other State Parks. I am an American citizen, 3rd generation of the Desert Southwest, born in New Mexico, Federal DoD Employee, and proud of our flags (USA, NM, Az) and what they stand for in terms of struggle, truth, justice, liberty, and freedom. I support and work side-by-side with our troops in Europe, in Afghanistan, and in America. When I come home, I sincerely enjoy our Arizona State parks. They represent our freedom and our history...many are interpretive and educational. I marvel at how we transformed from settlers and Native Americans struggling to live among the Desert elements into a society of neon lights and cell phones. Visiting the parks helps to put life back into perspective...swimming with the fishes and walking out to the island to enjoy a sunrise at Roper Lake, or marveling at how Mother Nature has formed Tonto Bridges, skirting around a rattlesnake on my hiking trail....reminders that life is as stressful and as difficult --or as pleasant and as simple as WE make it. Our state parks are icons of stress-relief and healthy activities. The closure of our Rest Stops makes it appear that Arizona is "closed for business" and that we do NOT want travellers to stop and enjoy our state. I fear these closures (rest stops and State Parks) will funnel all the more people to the Grand Canyon and ruin that park. Once a year I venture to Roper Lake to enjoy the comaraderie of friends, the parade of ducks, the debate about racoons, kayak races, sunsets and sunrises, early morning runs, and delightful campfire meals. I visit the park other times of the year as well, just to enjoy the solitude of a sunset, a quick soak in the hot pool, or a few minutes gazing at the lake. IF you proceed to close Roper Lake, we will have a double loss; it is my understanding that the terms of the bequeath of Roper Lake requires the Park to be operated CONTINUOUSLY or the property reverts to the Roper family. I urge you to reconsider our icons of Nature and Beauty of our state; preserve our heritage and education, our stress relief and healthy activity choices. —CC, AZ
Hi there, I just sent a message. I wanted to ask another. What is the reason for closing the 13 parks you did close? Why were these parks chosen? What will happen to the parks once they are closed.? Thank you. —Rachael
I can not believe what you are doing. There are other ways cuts can be made to keep these Parks open. Government spend should be looked at first.Look at what is wasted every day and make appropriate cuts there. Parks are a MAJOR source of income from people who go to Arizona and spend thier money that the government should put to good use. I personally travel to Arizona to see friends & use the Parks alot. If they are closed the I will not do anything to support Arizona anymore since it would be a waste of my time & money.Texas & Oklahoma have several VERY nice Parks too! Sorry to hear you can't run the State any better then you are doing. —Bob, Oklahoma
Roper Lake is one of the few recreation areas within reach of many of us, both financially and geographically. Not only does it provide pleasure for all of us, but creates a wonderful haven for birds and wildlife.
On top of that, it brings tourists and their accompanying money to our depressed area.
I know there is a huge budget crunch (we all have one) - but the amount needed for this park is not a gigantic expenditure. Surely there are other solutions - even limiting the days it is open, thereby cutting back on salaries, utilities, etc., is worth considering.
If you would just put some effort in finding A WAY to keep it open, rather than assuming it absolutely has to be closed, it would be appreciated by all of us in the Gila Valley and in Graham County. Thanks for listening. —June, Willcox
Clearly our current legislature is no longer serving the people of Arizona. I hope all of the Arizonans who have posted here remember this in the next election. —Mike, Mesa, AZ
Mr. Wooding, I am the gentleman {private citizen} that spoke at the Feb. 17th meeting. I just want to tell you and the board that I am not blaming the board for the closing of parks. I know you are in a very difficult position, and are doing the best you all can do under the worst circumstances. I put all the blame where it belongs--- with the legisature.in my frustrataion over the state of our parks,I forgot to convey this to the board.I apologize for this oversight. My wife and I will continue to do whatever we can to keep all parks open. —Don, Peoria, AZ
I think it is an absolute travesty that this park (or any of the AZ State Parks for that matter) is going to close its doors. In times like this people need outlets-- places that reaffirm their commitment to a place, their investment in a community. I am not even from Arizona but state parks have always defined my AZ experience. Just this week alone I visited Riordan Mansion and Tombstone. These are gems and it saddens me deeply that public access to these attractions will cease. Why not think of other ways to cut costs? In NM there are mandatory furloughs. Is that not a better compromise? Please reconsider this-- it's a mistake of the greatest magnitude. —Becky, Silver City, NM
I understand that many of the state parks are closing over the next few months but there is no information about what that means to individuals that frequent these areas. Will people still be allowed access to these areas or will they be shut down and controlled as "no trespassing" zones? I am curious how this will effect someone who would like to take a day hike up Picacho Peak or take a dip in Patagonia Lake? Will this simple mean there will be no rangers patrolling and keeping the areas up or will no access be granted for these areas? Any information that you could provide me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. —Dan, Tucson, AZ
The State Parks are the jewels of any state, where natural and historical relics are preserved and people can learn and enjoy them. Arizona has a special, unique beauty and history that draws people from all over the world. I think it is a mistake to do the lease bill, as I think it will ultimately harm the preservation of these parks. I do agree with the bill going through to prevent the legislature from sweeping State Park donations, as that money was specifically given to preserve parks and no one will want to make donations if it can just be taken for another use. I am not sold on the bill going through to increase everyone's vehicle fees. I would have no problem with it, however, I know folks who do not take advantage of the parks system that would not go for it. I haven't heard of the suggestion to increase some of the park fees to help those parks that are not quite making enough to support themselves, since the support would come from visitors of that park. That with the bill to prevent sweeping donations (and maybe even at least a portion of the fees) might be a possibility in keeping the parks alive. I am also very concerned that the legislature and State Parks are not looking at the big picture, since the visitors to the parks support the local businesses, which then provide taxes for the State. On top of it, with fewer visitors, more people may require State assistance in these areas. This whole plan to shut down the parks is short-sighted and tragic. —Diana, Phoenix, AZ
Hi, my name is Gerhard and I am from Germany.
I am afraid to hear that some state parks will be closed. Iâ m very sad about that, especially because I wanted to visit the Homolovi Ruins State Park in May this year. For my vacation planning I have some questions.
Is the Homolovi Ruins State Park completely closed? Or is only the Visitor Center closed? Is it possible to look at the ruins in Homolovi Ruins State Park in May this year? I would be very happy to see the ruins. Sincerely yours, —Gerhard, Germany
Why should I visit Arizona when it's closing most of its state parks? Lost Dutchman is being closed even though it likely earns money once additional tax revenue is considered. —Rory, Chippewa Falls, WI
I would like to express my concern about the closure of so many of the Arizona State Parks. As a student of archaeology and historic preservation I can assure you that the closure of these parks will be detrimental to not only the land but to Arizona's history. I will be honest--I am tired of seeing so many beautiful places bulldozed to make way for cookie cutter houses built on top of archaeological sites. I am tired of listening to people who build their homes in the desert then complain about coyotes killing their dogs and cats. We need to preserve our State Parks. If we don't, they will be built over, destroyed, and forgotten about. Once they are gone, there is nothing we can do to bring them back! Please remember the song by Joni Mitchell that says "you don't know what you've got till it's gone, they paved paradise and put up a parking lot." I implore you to find some way to keep the Arizona State Parks open! Thank you! —Olivia, AZ
Hi, what happens to a park when it closes? For instanse, I hike the trail to flat iron on a regular basis. Will I still be able to park my vehicle in the parking lot at lost dutchman and hike to flat iron once the park is closed? —William
Having volunteered at Picacho Peak State Park for 7 years I am really concerned what will happen in the park if it is closed. I have seen too many places that have been closed that soon after wards become destroyed. It seems to me that it would be best to keep the park opened as a day use park manned by a minimum staff and volunteers. Please give this some consideration. I feel I have contributed to this park and hate to see it destroyed. It seems to me it would make since to make day use of all the parks which would keep a minimum staff to keep them from be destroyed. Please give this consideration —Gordon, Livingston, TX
$1.4 million to close the parks? why not keep them open? This is something that cant happen.this is unacceptable. Az has the right to use the parks we already paid for. —Will
The Board should reconsider the closing of this park. It is a vital stopover location in the cross state movement of tourist RVs who value the high end gypsy camping life. There is no nearby substitute. We would gladly pay more to balance the income statement. I'm afraid the alternative for us would be less time in Arizona and more in Nevada or California. We prefer Arizona! —Robert, Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada
CLOSING THESE PARKS IS ABSURD! We spend weeks in these parks each year, pumping thousands of dollars into the local economies of the nearby towns. Arizona depends hugely on tourism and you're cutting our own throats by doing this. —Irene, Mt. Horeb, WI
Citizens' of Arizona, Do not let this socialist-becoming government push you around. Don't give into their bullying or manipulation. Illinois, where I live, is pretty much on their way to socialism. In a few weeks, the governor's office is scheduled to come out with the latest numbers on the budget deficit. It is estimated that it will be approximately 12 to 13 billion dollars for the fiscal years of 2010 and 2011. For the past eight years, my father and I have traveled to The Grand Canyon State over my spring break and we are doing the same this year. After seeing the Grand Canyon the first five vacations, it gets a little old. That is where Arizona's State Parks come into play. My father and I have frequently traveled to around ten different state parks. Out of the parks we go to, there is only one park not on the closing list. I will not specify which parks I visit, because I believe that all of the state parks are important in their own way, or else they would not be state parks. Arizona's State Parks give millions of tourists who venture to Arizona other places to see, and reasons to come back; it gives the citizens' of Arizona places to relax and recuperate from their hectic weeks. The state of Arizona is a unique state. It is one of the few states where you can experience life in so many different ways. I am 18 years old and I am currently attending college. My future plans included either continuing to vacation to Arizona every year or even moving out there. Maybe I am just a fool for thinking that Arizona was a unique state. —William, Des Plaines, IL
This is really sad, especially for me and my wife. I just retired in February and we just purchased a new motorhome about 3 months ago. We have been doing all this planning to spend winters starting in 2010/201l down in Arizona and see many of the sites there. This changes that completely. I can not see how this is going to help your state, there are a lot of us Baby Boomers out there that wanted to come down there and spend money. Good luck, but you are off our trip list now, please let me know if this changes. —Dennis, Knoxville, IA
It is a shame that our state can not adequately support our park system. It is equally a shame that the state's residents have long been deprived use of the state park resources to which our tax dollars have helped support. For instance, try being a working family which would enjoy a weekend camping at one of our state parks but refrain from packing up the family to go because of the uncertainty that it will find an available campsite once it arrives at a park. Almost all of the state park campsites are occupied by out of staters leaving no sites avaiable for Arizona residents to enjoy on weekends when thay can get away from work. Just watch the winter visitor "migration" from one park to another park on Sunday mornings in order to secure all of the campsites for the next two week period until they "migrate" again. This leaves no campsites available for the working Arizona family to enjoy on a weekend. Something is very wrong with this picture of closing more state parks, thereby further reducing the chances that a tax paying resident can enjoy them. Our state parks should not be for the exclusive enjoyment of non-resident visitors. No wonder there were state parks that closed due to lack of attendance. The uncertainty of finding an open campsite once you get there discourages our Arizonans from making the effort. A solution that would result in greater attendance and usage of our parks would be to reserve at least 25% of the campsites for use only by Arizona residents or to have a reservation system open to all. If the chances of finding a campsite were better, the atttendance numbers by our own residents would soar. Isn't that why we have state parks? —James, Mesa, AZ
Please don't close this park...or any of those slated to close this year! Not only are they breathtaking glimpses of how incredible our state is, visiting the parks is an inexpensive pastime during these economic times. Out-of-state & in-state visitors alike love these Arizona landmarks! —Heather, Phoenix, AZ
Instead of closing the parks, why not open it to public completely with minimum or no maintenance, and with automatic fee or no fee collection? Those parks (such as Red Rock and Natural Bridge) are so nice, they shall still be accessible by public even they are no longer state parks. —Douglas
As an economist & CPA I am having a great deal of trouble comprehending the "logic" behind the decision to close state parks. When one examines the current entry costs for parks--$5 per vehicle containing up to 4 persons--it would seem excruciatingly obvious that an increase to $5 per person would be a singular financial improvement & go a long way to obviating the "need" to close parks. Disneyland runs $50 to $65 per person, Kitt Peak is $48, so how is it defensible to charge patrons $1.25 to enter a state park AND close parks claiming the state has no money to keep them open. It will cost $200K/mo just to protect Homolovi when CLOSED! Before one can, with a straight face, claim closures make sense, I believe we should REQUIRE the governor & legislature to work for free. —Tom
I'm writing to protest the short-sighted & dim-witted decision to close parks. Your entry cost schedule--$5 per vehicle with up to 4 people--makes no sense in light of budget shortfalls. Instead of closing, why not raise the price from $1.25 per person to $5 per person, thereby raising much-needed revenues & preserving parks' viability. Given that Dizzyland is $50 to $65 & Kitt Peak is $48, it is still a huge bargain at the higher entry fee of $5. Adding in the reversion of some properties to donors and the cost of security @ vulnerable sites like Homolovi, this entire episode is totally idiotic. Does the board really think this is good public service? If so, the entire board should resign immediately! —Tex
I am a New Jersey resident whom has vacationed in your state in the past. I was planning to bring my children to AZ to share the beauty of your state this summer. What a shock it was to read that several of your parks are closed or closing. Excuse me if i am blunt, but i cant help think mismanagement of funds, beauracracy and over staffing and underworked employees are all part of the problem.This is often the problem with goverment be it AZ or NJ.You should be ashamed that you are unable to resolve the budget short falls without closing parks.I am not familiar with AZ politics, but assume it is the same everywhere.Most likely those who are senior members and the highest paid, and likely least productive members of the parks system and tourism depts. will be keeping there jobs.This is just another example of goverment mismanagement and poor fiscal responsability, which are the very things which are destroying our great nation.I will be taking my children, and my money elsewhere this summer , much to my dismay.I can imagine how much monies you will lose in tourist income. What fools politicians can be. —John, Egg Harbor Twp, NJ
I was a bit shocked to hear about the state park closings and Have canceled my trip this spring. I can only hope that the closures are temporary. But I have no plans to return to your lovely state until they are reopened. —Darlene, OR
Why in the world is the Board denying experienced private enterprise from renting and running the parks and instead closing them down? Not to be insulting but are the members of the Board out of touch with reality? Take the offer(s) you're getting, make rent money and keep the parks open and in repair. Please use your brains and get off your apathy. Thank you. —Pat, Green Valley, AZ
I had my az vacation all planned for this summer, now it's moot point. The parks are closed. You've taken a huge asset from all of us. I guess I'll pick another state. —Roberta
I fail to see how continuing to pay the fixed costs at Lyman Lake, but stopping the collection of revenue is going to save the park money. Please send me a copy of the detailed budget for Lyman Lake State Park along with your projected savings from closing the park. You are welcome to, instead, point me at the location where this information is already published if it has been. Thank you, —Ben, St. Johns, AZ
It is a sad day in the State of Arizona when something I have paid for for many years is going to close. When it comes to a loss in revenue, Did anyone think of the annual permit I purchase every year and the only park I visit is Alamo! How much more money will you lose when people don't purchase your annual permit any more! —Lee, Wickenburg, AZ
I'm sure you have answered this fifty thousand times and I haven't seen it...but when you close a park, does that mean all the programs and such and such are closed but people can go see it, or the actual roads leading to the park are closed and no one is allowed in and would be considered trespassing? For example, I love Tonto Natural Bridge, so when that closes, does that mean I won't ever get to see it again, or it just won't be maintained or have programs? Speaking of Tonto Natural Bridge, is it just the lodge that is temporarily closed, or is the whole park right now? I would really like to see it before it's closing in June. Thanks for your help :). —Christina
The Parks closing is more likely a political ploy to raise taxes unecesarily in the future, understanding times are tough, but they easily could have taken one of the many suggestions for alternatives to these parks closing, raising fees, a few bucks added to license plates etc. but watch as they come after us all to raise taxes and point at this issue and a few others to justify 10's of millions of dollars of tax increases. Give us the parks back, raise the entry fee's and find gap monies elsewhere. —Mark
Closing AZ State Parks is insane. The revenue brought in by tourists as sales tax, purchases from businesses, and other incidentals is going to be lost. Do you want California to get the money. This is insane!!!! —Chuck, San Jose, CA
we need this lake it's impact on the local area will be horrible. the recreaction an education you cannot put a dollar amount on what that's worth to the public. so please keep it open —George, Wenden, AZ
I am shocked that Arizona is proposing to close down so many of its parks without considering other plans for cost cutting measures. I am a native of Arizona and was born in Yuma. The Yuma Territorial Prison is part of the heritage of the city of Yuma, the State of Arizona and the old west itself. The state is having a tough time, but closing its parks is not the answer. Cutting hours, utilizing volunteers, cutting staff, cutting unnecessary agencies or unnecessary services yes, but destroying your state park system, no, no, no! —Ruby, McMinnville, OR
This is very sad news. My wife and I have been having trouble keeping our jobs in this state, and now the parks are leaving too? There is literally no reason left for us to stay in this state.
The way the state gov't has handled this budget crisis is an embarrassment. Maybe it's because I'm originally from a "blue" state, but the idea of cutting every program and job they can think of just doesn't seem very smart. People who don't want programs cut will leave, and people who are fired won't be paying any taxes. Net loss for the state. And now there's even less reason for tourism to occur in AZ. Tonto Natural Bridge is one of the most amazing places I've been in my life, a place that left more of an impression on me than the Grand Canyon. —David, Arizona
Will I still have access to Alamo Lake? —Leo
I cannot believe that Lost Dutchman and other parks will be closing down. I really am quite upset about this and think this will really cause further revenue lose in the state of Arizona. I think other things could have been done first - such as closures on a few days a week, summer months, having fund raisers, volunteers, or raising park fees are just a few things that could have been looked at.
Overall this will really hurt the state and closing them down is costing millions, not to say the cost of re-opening them and the cost of further upkeep after they are re-opened.
I am a teacher and professional photographer and would be happy to donate some of my photos to raise money for the parks and am sure that other artists would do the same. I just think that other avenues should be explored before we shut off the beauty to those that live here and to those that will be visit in the future. —Sue, Chandler, AZ
Are these closures a permanent plan or will the closed parks possibly be re-opened sometime in the future? —Thomas, Arizona City, Arizona
As I 5th generation Arizonan, I am dismayed to hear about the closure of these parks, all of them. Lost Dutchman has been a staple of my family as long as I can remember. t is very alarming that Lake Havasu, which has become a party location, will remain open. While parks that are full of Arizona History, will be shut down. A huge part of what makes Arizona so unique and amazing will be lost with these closures. —Kara
That's a shame, some parks will be closed. I hope the responsible guys in the goverment will be kicked out soon. We enjoyed Lost Dutchman & Roper Lake last year and we'll be at Red Rock this spring just in time before the closure. AZ SPs are providing some of the best spots in AZ to the public, that's really sad. If I (as an european visitor) think so, I hope the AZ people share my opinion ! —Markus, Germany
What access will be available when Red Rock park is closed? —Steve, Easley, SC
To whom it may Concern: I am assured that your mind is allreay made up in your closure of this park,I can only tell you that you are making a huge mistake this park as well as all of the others that you have been so short sighted in your belifes to close them,is beautiful is it arizona legend and beauty at its best.Know this you are robbing your children,grandchildren and many more generations of the true majestic beauty of Arizona. —Ruth, Mesa, AZ
What is going to happen to the state parks that are closed/closing? —Dawn
Why 4 full-time PAID rangers at Lost Dutchman? Tax shortages should mean a REDUCTION OF SALARIED staff, not park closing. VOLUNTEERS--snowbird & foothills locals--are willing & able to keep this Park functioning under supervision of ONE state park official. I volunteer to organize such a group. —Steve, Rapid City, SD & Apache Junction, AZ
How do we get the state to reopen the state parks; name Lyman Lake State Park. —Narita
We were planning a trip to Sedona in June right after you are closing this park. Does "closing" mean just no facilities (i.e. washrooms) and no programs? Can we still use the hiking trails? —Marcia
It is with great disappointment that we learn about the upcoming park closings. Luckily, we got to enjoy a brief stay at Pichaco Peak State Park the other day. There has got to be a better way to address the money issues such as more use of volunteers. I hate to think about what will happen to existing parks such as vandalism when they are abandoned. We are from Oklahoma and love to visit your state often. Please use the talents and resources you have to find a way to keep the state parks open. Please feel free to forward this letter to the Governor of Arizona. Thank you. —Bruce, Livingston, TX
The current Arizona State Parks system took over fifty years to develop. Land acquisition; facility development; restoration of historic sites; recruitment of professional staff; infrastructure development.
The investment of people and resources to protect and enhance our state's cultural and natural treasures is now at risk.
Arizonans love their state parks. People from around the world visit and enjoy the parks.
Look outside of the organization for new ideas regarding financial support for the parks system. Time for some fresh thinking. —Melanie, Tucson, AZ
Do park closures equate to no access by the public? —Ernest, Flagstaff, AZ
Dear Ms. Baeir, I am sitting here steaming and finally decided that I needed to do something. I am 77years old and 2nd. gen. AZ native. Could you send me an email list of the socalled legis. members, as I would like to email each one of the short sited idiots as well as the governor. I still can't believe they can STEAL our money to balance their problem. I remember when the VNB loaned the $ to buy the apple farm in Sedona until the state could pay for it. That was not a profitable deal to the bank but community activity. I also know that some of the state parks will revert to the owners if we close them. How STUPId to save $8M and to loose $270M. In my small way I would like help. Thanks. PS I am a state parks lover and user. —Tom, Dewey, AZ
What a disgrace! The only inexpensive and wholesome activity for a family cut by budget! I hope every single one of the politicians get replaced by some that can actual manage the budget. It is time for Arizona to realize that the way they are leading the state is wrong! Vote for a change people! —Claudia
I love Arizona, unfortunately don't get there often being from Wisconsin. But this is a shame, hopefully its only temporarily. The value of protected lands is priceless and can not be replaced. When I do visit a state we visit the large parks but prefer to stay and play in the smaller state parks..the priceless gems. Please reconsider —Kathy, Mosinee, WI
will people still be able to walk and or ride their horses through red rock state park? will there be a fine for doing so? If there are no employed rangers or forestry service will there be anyone who will enforce the closures and make sure people stay out? Thanks —Suzanne, Sedona, AZ
I have been reading the comments from people in Az. and elsewhere in the world, and I have to agree with many that implore you to not close our state parks. I and my family have been frequent paying guests at several of Arizona's state parks. You are only cutting out a revenue source for the state and the many towns that are nearby the various state parks. I see you have partially listened to the comments that advise raising the gate fee's, (good) but still plan to close 13 state parks. What an insult to the citizens of Arizona. The Arizona State park system can pay it's own way, and help the re-employment of the state while increasing income from sales tax. Why don't you just close down the Arizona Dept. of Tourism. You won't be needing it anymore!!! —Harold, Mesa, AZ
Director's office: I have sent the following letter to the Governor and Legislature:
February 11, 2010
Dear Governor Brewer, Senator Leff, Adam Driggs, Eric Meyer
Please return money donated to Arizona State Parks. The Arizona Republic (January 4, 2010 Section B1+7) reported that Alta Forest had left $250,000, her life savings, to the Arizona State Park. She loved the land and the Arizona State Parks wanted to respect her wishes and spend it wisely, unfortunately, they waited too long. Ken Travous, retired state-parks director, said, "they wanted to use (the large gift) for something big enough to really make her proud." Unfortunately, our state legislature "swept up half the money in the donations fund" . This cannot stand. Arizona has a fiduciary responsibility to honor the wishes of people (living or dead) who donate money. Even Reese Woodling, chairman of the state parks, board, said, "For the Legislature to take that money and not give it a second thought is unconscionable." Please return the money.
I called Arizona State Parks and they said that the State has also stolen the money from the Heritage Fund $60 million. This is not the stateâ s money this is Our Legacy being stolen. Please return the money. Sincerely, —William, Phoenix, AZ
You need to increase user fees and cut costs elsewhere. I'm sure you could raise lots of taxes someplace and cut jobs also. There is so much more to be done than just closing parks. Close Patagonia instead; see how many mad people you would have. Just because people use Lyman sparingly is no reason to close the park. —Narita
closure of this park will have a great impact on local and state revenue.also game and fish will lose a lots of money from out of state license sales.this a family lake,a place you can take your children so they can learn thats there is more to life than drugs. —John, Wickenburg, AZ
I think we all understand what a dire financial situation the Sate of Arizona is in. Reducing staff and closing outbuildings that support our State Parks might be a solution to reduce costs but it is entirely unacceptable to deny access to the State Parks (although not stated, I think this is implied - like rest areas throughout the state). Last I checked, State Park land is owned by the taxpayers of Arizona and as a taxpayer, I fully intend on continuing to enjoy the State Parks I frequent, closed or not. Other comments posted regarding expected litter & vandalism at the closed sites are accurate - a very unfortunate situation. —Scott, Tucson, AZ
Let's hope the National Government doesn't take the same path to fix their financial woes as AZ. Wonder how all our state politicians would feel if Washington decided to close THE GRAND CANYON to save money????? —Timothy, Tempe, AZ
comments: all i can say is who the { } do they think they are to take our parks away without asking the public, we need to take our country back!! vote these losers out or fire them, not to mention these parks bring dollars to arizona, idiots in leadership. – Rob
I read where the Yuma Territorial Prison is scheduled to be closed. That simply should not happen. Has any attempt at getting the City of Yuma or Yuma Country helping operate it? What can be done to try and save the Park. I saw something on Facebook regarding private industry trying to raise $50,000. If this effort is successful, will this allow the park to stay open? Please let me know. Thanks. —William, Plainfield, IL
What effort or provision is made to take care of the parks that are closing? Are they going to be just locked up and left or is there going to be some kind of care takers? —Terry
If I wanted to ask for donations from My church and the Co. I work for,to keep this particular park from closing, how much would be needed in actual dollars to keep THIS park from closing? No I'm not kidding!!!! —Mark, Gilbert, AZ
Dr Mr Reese Woodling, How could the park board choose to close the parks rather than find an alternative? These lands are important, and I fear that they will be left vulnerable to expolitation for business reasons. I am sad that a more reasonable solution was not found, and that Arizona's beautiful resources may now be spoiled. —Jon, Tucson, AZ
comments: I am a concerned citizen of Arizona and very concerned about the closing of many of our state parks. I visit from 6-10 parks each year when family comes to visit. The budget cutback will loose over 157 million dollars to local economies near the parks in questions. Tourism is very important to our state. I think a creative solution needs to be worked out to keep all our parks open. Thanks. —Jerry, Scottsdale, AZ
I know the parks like Tonto Natural Bridge are closing due to budget cuts but does that mean that no one can enter the land at all? Is there no way to see these parks? Are we able to go there and they're just not maintained? —Mike
I have volunteered in Arizona county parks for ten years and in an Iowa county park for five years. From what I observe and learn. Parks n the state level are very poorly managed. You don't need four or five paid employs doing the same thing that a volunteer is there to do. We as volunteers, ( fr the most part) are retired professional folks that have been successful and love the park system. Before closing the parks, ( LOOK AT WHAT YOU MIGHT BE DOING WRONG ) —Jim, Iowa
Wow, closing several historic parks which are MAJOR tourist attractions. How short sighted can you people be? Fees can not be raised? Will the areas be leased to other organizations so that our state history can be preserved? These state parks are an incredible asset to our state and different avenues other than closure need to be explored. —Joyce and Dennis, Casa Grande, AZ
All this proved was how corrupt your legislature is, something that belongs to the people you take it away. I guess now you are going to sell these parks to private business... Its kind of like the land deal in Globe what a farce this was. —Melford, Aberdeen, MS
I understand several of Arizona's state parks will be closed in the near future. This is just wrong. These parks are for the people of Arizona to use and enjoy. There needs to be more of an effort to find ways to keep them open. —Kay
I am shocked that this park, among others, is being closed. I moved to Arizona precisely for the reason of enjoying the natural beauty of the state and the assumption that such resources were protected by the public sector. I wonder why the natural treasures of Arizona are not valued enough to be protected by budget considerations that don't consider the true value of these resources. If government is just a for-profit business, then why do we even need it? We could turn over all land for development and eliminate the madate to protect nature for nature's sake, which draws toursits who appreciate this kind of thing. I have lived in undeveloped countries that are either unwilling or unable to protect their natural beauty, and I have watched as it is "developed" economically and thus degraded to yet another business and residential zone. I guess Picacho Peak will have a chairlift to the top, with a restaurant and bar? that will make it economically viable, but I will never go there again. I am ashamed that such short-sighted thinking is happening in my country. At least we still have the national park system (it that doesn't suffer the same fate) so that will keep me in Arizona, but the loss of the integrity of our state parks is a major blow, and something that will discourage visitors and residents in the future. —Jonathan, Tucson, AZ
I was very disheartened to hear that many of the state parks my wife and I have stayed at over the years are scheduled to be closed. I think the state is making a mistake as there are quite a few tourist dollars that are going to be lost to the local economies.
What is meant by closing the parks? Are you going to set up baracades, keeping people physically out of the parks or just stop providing any services? For example, would one still be able to boondock at Dutchman State Park and walk on the trails or will the public be banned from walking the trails on the PUBLIC lands. I anxiously await your reply. —Richard, Greybulll, WY
There are so many people out there that would willingly give a few hours of their time for free to help those places you are planning to close, to keep them open even if it were for just the weekends. What a disaster, esp. for young people not to be able to visit history? —Ana, Green Valley, AZ
comments: We are tourists from Germany and come to the arizona state parks for more than a decade. We can't understand the decision to close all these parks. We will spend much less time in Arizona and go to other states instead. —Peter, Germany
When you say that Alamo Lake is closed do you mean that the facilities are closed or all access to the lake? I was looking forward to going there and fishing. —Bruce, Jackson, WY
I am a yearly visitor from Idaho and cannot believe what I am hearing about closing all these great parks of Arizona. We stay every year at Picacho Peak when we attend the Tucson Gem Show, as well as other parks on our visit south. And now we hear that Tucson is thinking of letting the Gem show go to Las Vegas. What is happening here in Arizona? If you do not have the tourists, you will NOT have revenue to keep your infrastructure going. At Picacho Peak there was a recent renovation of bathrooms with showers. How sad to let these improvements go to waste. You should be PROMOTING your parks, not closing them. We do not know where we will be able to stay with our camper when we come again to the Gem Show....PLEASE find a way to keep your wonderful parks open. This is such sad news. There has to be a better solution. —Jan, Boise, ID
Penny wise, pound foolish. Arizona Republicans strike again! Keep the parks open!!!! —David, Tempe, AZ
How sad for our children and their families to close our State Parks! —Sandra, Camp Verde, AZ
We unfortunately had to cut our trip to Arizona short this year because of a health problem. We now see that several of your parks are going to be closing this Spring. Our favourite park to visit is Roper Lake, and I notice it is on the closure list. Could you please advise if this is a temporary situation, or is this a forever closure. —Ron, Chilliwack, British, Colombia, Canada
I live in California but I'm very distressed that you would close the Tombstone Courthouse. Tombstones history must be kept alive. Also, the Karchner Caverns as well - one of the best I have been too. —Rose, Sacramento, CA
My question is the parks that are being closed due to funds can they be leased to private business as good stewards of the land in partnership with the Arizona State Parks guidelines and provisions. If so what resourses are available if any to research this? —Taz, Sedona, AZ
Hi,I am concerned about this park due to its extraordinary dragonfly diversity and the fact that it harbors the only known population of Brachymesia gravida in the state (and the westernmost in the country). Location and pH are keys here. What are the plans for the lake? Will it be maintained at its present levels even as the park closes? Surely they won't allow it to go dry. Any info that you can provide me in this regard would be most appreciated. Thanks —Rich, Tucson, AZ
Why would you even consider closing the state parks? What an insane idea. The state parks belong to the people of the state, and everyone here should have access. If they are closed, I would imagine that they will go into a state of disrepair along with vandals coming in and destroying them. Also, what do you think tourists will think when they come to AZ and find out that some of the big attractions of AZ are closed? That's just poor thinking. I imagine places like Payson depend on parks like Tonto Natural Bridge to bring in a fair amount of money. We go to Tonto Natural bridge off and on and always stop at payson for something. Again, what an insane idea it is to close the state parks. —Fran
I have just sent in a comment and forgot to add - why not raise the entrance fees to the parks and also have a state park pass for $100 a year. There has to be a better solution to the problem than to shut the parks down. —Fran
It's too bad reservations can be made at only two of your state parks. We'd love to come down from here in Salt Lake City and camp at Alamo Lake State Park at the end of May before it closes but we don't want to drive all that way only to find out there isn't any spots available when we arrive. I wonder if the lack of reservation capability at the majority of your parks contributed to the closure of some of them. It would seem not having the ability to make reservations would limit your potential guests to those in the local area who could afford to be turned away after only driving a short distance. I'm sorry to see all those parks go before we had a chance to visit them. Good luck with those that will remain open. —Cullen
I have heard that the state is closing the Lost Dutchman State Park. I was wondering if it would still be open for the public. That would be great if you gat back to me. —Austin
January 28, 2010
To Governor Jan Brewer and the Arizona State Parks Board,
As an avid hiker who frequently enjoys the beauty that the Superstition Mountains affords, I read the news of the closing of the Lost Dutchman State Park with disappointment. As a citizen of Arizona and a businessman, I also read it with a certain measure of disbelief.
Our company serves other small businesses, many of which are struggling right now, so I understand the difficult economy we find ourselves in and the challenge of balancing a budgetâ ¦whether itâ s a household, an office or a state. But if the facts stated in the story published in The East Valley Tribune on January 27, 2010 are correct, I am surprised and disappointed in what appears to be a short-sighted decision to close this park. I am hard-pressed to believe that closing the park represents the best of the alternatives available to the state.
According to the article, this park is covering nearly 97% of its operating costs through park use fees. But, in order to save $9000 annually, the state is prepared to bear the expense of â moth-ballingâ the parkâ s facilities, plus suffer the depreciation of the property through deferred maintenance and the inevitable vandalism it will see. Meanwhile, should the state ever wish to re-open the park in the future when the economy improves, I suspect that the small amount of savings realized now will be spent many times over to restore the parkâ s facilities to their present condition.
As a businessman, I have watched the domino effect of decisions like this which, in the end, cost far more than the minor savings that are realized in the short term. This decision will potentially put people out of work, adding to the stateâ s growing unemployment burden. It will likely cause a decline in revenue for vendors and contractors who currently service this park. It will eliminate revenue from local and out-of-area visitors and campers whose use of the park and travel into the area bolster the local economy. Revenues lost are dollars not spent, further dampening our hurting economy.
It seems inconceivable that the parkâ s budget could not be trimmed by a mere 3 to 4% in order to make it â carry its own weightâ through the fees it generates. And now that the need has been made known, I suspect that a number of people who enjoy the park would volunteer a day or two throughout the year to help offset the parkâ s operational costs. I am personally prepared to do so.
On a non-economic note, this closure will also deprive local residents of healthy, inexpensive, family-friendly recreation during a time when other recreational activities may be beyond their means. Each day the park remains open, those people who use the facilities gain a new appreciation for nature and the rugged beauty of the Superstitions. By contrast, an untended park will likely invite far less positive recreation into the area.
I mean no disrespect to those who have made this difficult decision, but I cannot comprehend the rationale behind it. It seems like a radical over-correction to close a largely self-sustaining facility which brings so much positive to the region and the state.
I sincerely and respectfully request that this decision be reconsidered. Please consider how to make the needed minor budget adjustments, perhaps through the utilization of additional volunteers who will help the park offset operational costs, and keep this valuable recreational resource open to the citizens of Arizona and her guests. —Sincerely, Steve, Mesa, AZ
You must keep this park open! It's the first european settlement in Arizona! Use more discretion. This is the most important state park. —Michael
when a park closes does that mean no services, but I can still access, such as hike Picacho Peak, and in the way that Boyce Thompson is somehow privately funded, why is there not more information on what it'd take per park to keep it operating? —Rob, Phoenix, AZ
I understand that this park will be closing this summer...how sad! Sad, because so many parks are without funding, and sad because I think this would be the perfect place for my wedding in 2011. If the park is closed, is it still possible to rent/use it for events? Thanks for your help. —Amanda, Phoenix, AZ
Is it possible that some county governments could take over the parks in thier area. It might boost local economy growth and more jobs for county residents. The state could just let counties take over without charge. The state would then still make money off the tax and money brought in by visitors to the state. It's better than just shutting them down, I think. —David
I moved here from Minnesota where State taxes were much higher than here. Whenever I felt annoyed by the amount of taxes I was paying, I would stop and think about all I received for that money. State and city parks was at the top of that list. I also routinely purchased an annual State Parks Pass both to enjoy the parks and to support them. I recently purchased an Arizona State Parks annual pass. With the upcoming closure of most of the State's Parks, there is little to support and less to see. How do I get a refund on my soon-to-be nearly useless annual pass? —Bobbie
AZ has been granted over $232,000.00 through Southwest Conservation Corps for the preservation of parks. Why are the funds not being utilized for the use of keeping our most frequented parks open and useable? This would also help our youth. —Patti, Surprise, AZ
Who the hell is responsible for closing Tombstone Courthouse State Historic Park, what an idiot you must have working in your area. Been there and what a great draw that place is to your State. It must pay it's own way or nearly I'd imagine. Could care less for so much in your state but these grand historic sites are national treasures. —Rob
I read in the paper that the park is $9000 short of their operating costs. Why don't they raise the entrance fee by $.50 or $1.00 to cover it? I realize that the park is not a revenue generator for the state; however, closing it will have a greater impact than $9000 on the surronding businesses and communities. —Julie
Anybody know if anyone is thinking of a referendum of the people to create a permanent and inviolate state parks trust fund? Similar to the Heritage Fund? If so, can you place me in contact? If not, any idea how I can start, anyone else interested? —Timothy, Glendale, AZ
Before yesterday we planned on spending the winter of 2010-2011 in Arizona. Today that plan has changed as we have no need to be in Arizona if the parks are closed. Our dollars will be going elsewhere. —Keith, Bucyrus, OH
I recently received an email from a local archaeology organization, along with an attachment for the plan to close many of the stae's parks. Archaeology is a non-renewable resource, once these parks are closed these resources could be lost forever. Especially Homolovi Ruins, the day I was there I called authorities on 2 seperate visitors looting artifacts from the ground surface. I know that i along with your residents want these parks to be kept intact for the generations to come to enjoy. Closing these parks takes all of that away. Sincerely, —NAU Alumni Christina, Durham, NC
I was, for the past two years, president of the Key Peninsula Metro Parks District (KeyPenParks) in the Puget Sound area of WA state. We were facing numerous State Parks closures, with local parks threatened to the possible absorbtion of state parks into local parks budgets. Instead, WA state has adopted the Montana system of having those renewing their tabs paying $5.00 for parks, unless they "opt out" and choose not to pay. It works well in Montana and so far it seems like it may save the parks in Washington. Has Arizona considered this system? Thank you. —Elmer, Oro Valley, AZ
Imagine the horror of all, literally, to all who hold dear that which is our birthright. Arizona State Parks closing. No more the natural surroundings familiar to all those who treasure the myriad of experiences that our Parks provide. We identify with our Natural Themepark, that which IS Arizona...to deny parks is to essentially deny our birthright.
Who will assure the right of our citizens to what naturally belongs to them? Arizona State Parks has a 7 million dollar short fall. Why do we keep open the Office of Tourism? Their 15 million dollar budget surely could be sacrificed in order to save experiences in the wilderness coming to nothing but a foregone thought. You wish to talk about jobs saved yes, I guess perhaps that is the underlying truth the jobs of many bureaucrats, most as we know now paid over 30% better wages, on average, than the private sector. You want to talk smart, to talk common sense... consider this
Build it and they will come? How about take it away and they will not come. Simple math. Hundreds of thousands of visitors to the State Parks contribute in countless ways, including many ways that we can, in fact, count. We can count on restaurants to the tune of 20% of those situated around closed state parks, 20% right now zip, those businesses are gone so how many total employees? How about the taxes lost to the state both from the employees and from the profitable businesses ...that is in another column but you get the idea.
Imagine travelers from California, who account for, with Arizonans, 66% of our total travel. I will tell you not only what I can SEE but what we all can COUNT on -- that a well planned trip to Arizona is now diverted to another more enlightened universe that treasures its natural experiences.
So what does a Tourism media expert think about all of this? Simple Let go of Arizona Office of Tourism...streamline it down to the home office, they already triangulate all of their major marketing responsibilities to advertising agencies you can get this all done for 2.9 Million dollars do the math I did. Now let's turn the lights on in the parks and good night to all. —Tony
Dear Sirs, I can't believe you are closing such a beautiful resource. There must be a better way! Perhaps through higher fees, or better management. —Ken Idaho Falls, ID
I implore you to re-consider the decision to close the Tombstone Courthouse. As a recurring tourist to Tombstone, it is my favorite place to visit. This building is the only authentic building with a direct link back to the days of early Tombstone. It may prove disastrous to the economic welfare of the city. Has alternative funding solutions been sought? Since Tombstone is a historic landmark, could federal funds be applied for? I understand that the Courthouse might not be a top revenue producer, but that is not the function of a museum. It’ s to share the history contained within. To educate those that walk the same hallways as Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, Johnny Ringo, the Clantons, Frank Leslie, Mayor Clum, and many more, too numerous to put to words.
It’s a loss to the City of Tombstone, a loss to the State of Arizona, and a tragic loss to the rest of the nation. Please re-consider. —Robert, Carlyle, IL
On June 3rd when the park is closed , I was wondering does that mean you are going to close all roads to the lake or is it just your not going to maintain the area —Nicholas
The future closing of our State Parks is very short sited. The deterioration of the facilities and distruction of the parks is not a viable use of State Funds. Has anyone thought of how these parks will ever open again? We live in a very prestine State, we have lots of tourists who come here to enjoy these parks yearly.
I can only appeal to you not to use this in cutting our State budget.
Obviously you aren't in touch with nature both human and animal. The humans will destroy what is already built in a very short time. The animals will over run the parks and another problem will occur when and if you ever attempt to open them.
Suggest higher fees, more volunteer programs. Cut your budget by decreasing salaries and paperwork. Use the money you have more wisely. —Barbara, Chandler, AZ
I was disappointed to hear that the Homol'ovi Ruins State Park is being closed. I understand that Arizona, not unlike the rest of the country, is dealing with budget issues, however I urge the state to recognize the unique cultural value it possesses as it is a landscape rich with archaeological sites that, among other things, help create a basis of shared cultural identity for the communities in Arizona. As you may know, archaeological sites are particularly vulnerable to vandalism and looting when left unattended, this would lead to damage that would be irreversible. In difficult times, people should be able to find comfort in symbols that are lasting; Homol'ovi is a site that transcends bureaucracy, a place of great reverence to human antiquity for the state of Arizona to share. If Arizona neglects its rich cultural landscape, it would be depriving future generations of their cultural heritage, earned or borrowed. —Kathryn
Hi, my name is Kevin Baune and I am an Anthropology student. This comment is in regards to the closure of Homol'ovi Ruins State Park. While I understand that this is a difficult time for Arizona this park is one of the most important Archaeological sites in the southwest. It has yielded so much invaluable information and will continue to do so but not without the help of Arizona. This site, in particular, is quite close to major urban areas and will be subject to looting and destruction as it had been years ago before being protected. I ask you to provide some sort of plan to protect these resources during this budgetary crises. I believe it is your responsibility to do so. Thank you. —Kevin, California
Dear Mr. Woodling, We have been camping at Roper Lake for over two years and find it to be the best. We've met people from Canada, the Netherlands and all over the USA. The park is quiet, well maintained and safe for all families to camp. Unlike Patagonia which is always noisy, crowded and not kept up as well as Roper. The camp sites are much smaller at Patagonia. Roper has large camp sites and all the sites are clean when we arrive. Being able to make reservations at Roper, is a plus. The fishing is much better, since there aren't any boats speeding by as there are at Patagonia. Each time we vacation, we are also spending money in Safford at the following places. Restaurants, Walmart, Walgreens, gas stations and RV repair shops. We would be willing to pay alittle more for daily camping fees, in order to keep Roper open. Thank You. —James, Tucson, AZ
Do you intend to close Crescent Moon State Park in Sedona (part of the Red Rock State Park) out 89A in June 2010? I can't believe this. This is one of the most revered parks and is known for its wonderful hiking, birding, desert flowers and Sedona history of the Frye Ranch which was dedicated to the public! —Luana, Shell Knob, MO
Hi: My wife and I have lived in Tubac for 25 years. I am a retired CA State Park Ranger/manager and keep in touch with current CA Park problems that seem to be nation wide. Our retired Rangers organization (CSPRA) is supporting the Parks Access Pass Initiative in CA and I believe we can do a simular program here in AZ. I am Faxing information to you (which you may already be aware of) for review. I would be (and will be) helping in some small way to assist you in keeping AZSP's open. —Dana, Tubac, AZ
This makes me sad to find that Lyman is closing. This is the only close warm water fishery. Guess the state has better use for the small amount it takes to keep the park open. Thank you —William, Springerville, AZ
I thought I would share this letter with you that I am sending to the Governor's Office. I hope the mission and integrity of parks will be preserved. The letter is as follows:
I wanted to take the time to write a personal letter voicing my concern over Arizona’s State Parks. I am a parks manager for another state and a visitor and user of Arizona’s parks, recreation and historical sites. I am appalled at the thought of blanket closings of parks, and I understand the situation is dire. I do not believe however, that closing parks is the answer nor are parks the real problem. Parks are generally a very small part of a states budget and one of the few agencies that produces revenue for the communities. They have great value. A value that should not be forgotten. You see I have a family heirloom, an anvil given to me by my grandfather that used to be my great-grandfather’ s. My great-grandfather was a blacksmith and I was told he had muscles solid as iron. He worked on the family farm that was homesteaded in the 1800’ s after they emigrated from Norway. He could pick up that anvil with one hand and extend it straight out from his body. Now if I sold this anvil I could get a little money, but I would never get what it is really worth and I would lose part of my family history and myself in the process. If I gave this anvil to someone who could use it, they may appreciate the quality of it, but they would never appreciate what it really means to my family and me. No, it would be foolish to part with my anvil because it is so much more than that.
The people of Arizona have their anvils too; it is their parks and historic sites. Sites that are in your care. I ask that you consider that before you let these thirteen sites pass. —William
They will be sad days when the parks close. 15 years ago my husband and I were married in Red Rock State Park. Today we live just a few miles away from Lost Dutchman and visit it often with friends and family. Aside from our personal reasons, the parks are important because they help people to appreciate nature safely while preserving our heritage--it's mutually beneficial to both humans and the land itself. In these tough times the park system is only one of many things that people need, however it is one of the few things that CAN be provided. —Jill
This is a beautiful park with an amazing view of the Superstition Mountains. I believe it a mistake to close it and I probably will not be returning to the area because of it. —Ronald, Oregon
I would like to voice my concern about the closing of Homol’ ovi Ruins State Park. I am a student of Anthropology at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and am currently researching the Pueblo culture at the contact period. I am particularly concerned about the security of the Homol'ovi ruins once they are closed. As an anthropologist it is heartbreaking to see archaeological sites destroyed, and I believe the closure of the Homol'ovi Ruins State Park will inevitably lead to the destruction of invaluable archaeological and ancestral information. If the park must close, steps must be taken to prevent looting and vandalism at the site. I believe much can still be learned from Homol'ovi and I would hate to see it defiled. It is your responsibility to preserve this site for further study as well as visitation by subsequent generations. —Amanda
To whom this may concern:
I am writing as a concerned future professional Archaeologist with an intent to study the famous North American southwest. Arizona is home to many of the original inhabitants of this country and contains a significant amount of rich evidence supporting this assertion. However much of that information has yet to be discovered, and thankfully through the preservation efforts of the national state park, that evidence can one day benefit future understanding and analysis. If the Homolovi Ruins were to be closed, because of budget issues, this would be a detriment to Arizona's historic reputation, as the home to numerous other sites, that attracts thousands of tourist a year. Although current monetary troubles make the closing of this park seem wise, the actions of today can have detrimental effects on history. Keep in mind that even a fraction of destruction by looters can cause an immense loss of knowledge, not only to people interested in understanding this culture, but especially to Native Americans. Allowing destruction to Homolovi, by closing the state park, is the equivalent to burning the original bill of rights. This analogy might seems excessive to us but equivalent to the descendants of the Homolovi ruins.This site is not only a ruin but it is also an ancestral community that should be preserved by this government, as well as it preserves the cultural remains of out its own forefathers, considering the loss Native American's have been subjected to. Their migration caused a great deal of loss, as a result of the 'wise' decisions of our forefathers and these actions would be looked upon in the future as we see our forefathers' decisions today, with shame. The decisions of today have a significant amount of consequences on the future, especially in this case. Therefore, I urge the continuation of support for the Homolovi Ruins State Park. Please consider this support as one of many who also support the site but do not know the means of stopping current decisions surely leading to destruction. Thank you for your attention and consideration and I hope this aids your impending decision. —Irene, Urbana, IL
As a lifelong resident of Flagstaff and a descendant of the George Babbitt family, I can verify the desire and even more relevant - the NEED - to keep Riordan State Park open. The first problem would be that the property would revert back to the original owners and the State Park tax dollars that have been invested over the years would be forfeited. The second problem, I can say firsthand, would be the potential loss or destruction of a landmark for the Flagstaff area. My own grandparents' home - when left vacant - became the target of vandals and burned to the ground in 1961. Can you just imagine the destruction that could occur with the current social climate? And third - the main reason Bob dealt with the Parks in the first place was because of the infringment on the surrounding property by NAU when only a private individual was involved which because of the location of the Riordan Mansion is inevitably going to occur as soon as the State Parks withdraws their support. This would strip the Flagstaff area, the county, and indeed the state of an irreplaceable landmark forever. I hope the current make up of the Board is not so short-sighted that they would consider the total closing of the Riordan Mansion would be a good idea even in the light of the current economic crisis. I am sure there is enough money available in some area of the state budget to forego this happening. Sincerely —Joanne, Rimrock, AZ
Lots of RV travelers on the road and need a place to stay, we will just avoid your State. The internet is a poweer tool. —Bill, Michigan
Hello, please don't close most Arizona State Parks. Tourism will bring the money in. Find some way to keep them open! Please don't close Lost Dutchman in particular. These parks are Arizona's treasure and I come over from New Mexico to visit them. If they are not guarded, vandals may destroy them. 8 million dollars is not that much money--please get creative--find a way. Sincerely, —Vicky, Albuquerque, NM
Can the state park board lease the state parks to game & fish, or other federal or private entities. Leasing the sites for not for profit, or profit is a viable option, charge a reasonable lease fee or percentage of profit.
Are board members salary compensation? If so, is the board reudcing the board/administartion expense by the same percentage as of park closures? —Jeff, Thatcher, AZ
I received a letter from Mr. Konopnicki stating I should get a hold of you, since you are the ones who actually closed the parks. It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Jan Brewer took the money away from the park would it? However, couldn't the money within the state park division be redistributed to keep Roper open. If we loose Roper Lake it will be permanent! We lost the mines, we lost our jobs, now the kids are loosing a place that parents can afford to take their children in a time of depression. Do it for the kids! —Marie
I CANT BELIEVE THE STATE IS CLOSING ALAMO LAKE, AND KEEPING SLIDE ROCK OPEN. SLIDE ROCK IS NORMALY CLOSE DUE TO SOME SORT OF CONTAMINATION ANYWAY. CLOSING IT WOULD BE DOING THE PEOPLE OF AZ A FAVOR —Steve
Dear Executive Director Bahl:
The Riordan State Historic Park is internationally and nationally significant, far beyond its importance to Flagstaff, Coconino County and Arizona. It combines quintessential American Craftsman architecture and one of the most complete collections in the world of Craftsman furniture, art and appointments originally collected, designed and even built specifically for this pair of historic homes. The Craftsman movement was a fundamental development in American architecture and formed the foundation even of Frank Lloyd Wright’ s advances in the art.
Riordan Park draws interest, not unlike its sister, the El Tovar Hotel, from around the nation and the world. It is different from all other State Parks. It should be kept open with full funding. Its outstanding staff, led by the award-winning Mike Davis and the ever-devoted Kathy Faretta, should not be reduced but augmented with an economic development expert to put its untapped revenue potential to work. Even in 2003, with 20,000 visitors it should have generated $100,000 -- today, you could add to that revenue substantially by reaching out for Corporate Events, Academic Conferences, local and state social events beyond the current wedding traffic, perhaps regular catered cocktail/dinner gatherings for various local membership groups, and the like. This facility can and should stand on its own.
In giving the property to the Arizona State Parks system, the intent of the family owners was to share this remarkable place with the general public essentially full-time, with the Arizona State Parks operating, maintaining, curating, developing and protecting the property. It is a devastating disappointment to learn of the planned closure February 22, 2010, which is nothing short of abject failure of the Parks system to live up to the intent of the gift. It seems a severe contrast to keeping open those facilities which cater to motorized vehicular land sports and motorized recreational watercraft.
Please reconsider the full funding of this unique Park, and the further activation of its revenue-creating potential with a reputable, professional economic development officer or perhaps concession operator. Thank you. Sincerely, —Helen & Tom, Flagstaff, AZ
What will happen with Picacho Peak after it closes. Could other groups possibly take it over? —Chris, St. Clair Shores, MI
We are highly opposed to the closure of Alamo Lake!! —John, Salome, AZ
Remind the stewards of these heritage resources that even though an archaeological park may be closed, the need to secure and monitor these parks will be even more critical after the gates have been locked. —Margaret, Mesa, AZ
As a longtime Arizonan, I am deeply concerned about the Parks closures and the archaeological and other cultural resources that will be made more vulnerable by the planned closures. Please ensure that these irreplaceable resources will be patrolled and watched over in spite of the closures. —Kim
Unbelievable you people are going to close down 2/3 of your state parks. WHY???? don't you get enough money on entry fees, camping, souvniers don't you know it's going to hurt the towns close by or don't the f**king politicans give a damn about the people. All they care about is giving themself pay raises and bonuses all I can say if they go through with that I guess we will be going to another state for vacations and I think a lot of other people will so not only will they be losing out on park fees but also the money they lose on the touriest spending money on gas, food, lodging, etc. What a bunch of idiots. —Bob
Lunacy. Closing parks, especially Red Rock SP is foolish. People will still go there and park on the road, violate the gate, or cross from the south side of the creek. The result will be more litter, and use of Oak Creek as a toilet. The state will lose revenue and create more problems for itself. —Alex, Sedona, AZ
I was reviewing the overview from the January 15, 2010 meeting about the closure of state parks. There were some charts and graphs showing the expenditures and revenues from each of the parks. While these figures are quantifiable, did the study also include the economic impact to the local area and ultimately the state? How many people will start collecting unemployment because businesses close? How much sales tax will be lost for the same reason? How much property tax revenue is lost because the real estate in the area decreases in value? How much money in tourist dollars will be lost? And, there are probably other expenses and loss of revenue for the local and state governments I cannot think of. I don’ t know what criteria was used to decide which parks to close, but there it seems that closing the courthouse in Tombstone will not have as big an economic impact on the city of Tombstone as closing Picacho Peak where the state park is probably bringing in the bulk of revenue for this small community.
The representatives for the state are not in an enviable position right now and, I can all understand that cuts have to be made. But, I was wondering if all impacts to closing some of the State Parks were considered? Thanks for educating me. —Nancy, Tucson, AZ
To the State Park Committee, It has been determined to close Roper Lake State Park. I am so saddened by this news. Is there anything our community can do to keep it open? As a mother of two young boys, we love to spend the summer at Roper Lake. There is not much to do in this small town and that is one activity we cherish. This town needs places for our families to go to. We NEED recreational facilities. There is not much left for us to do here. Thousands of dollars were spent building cabins, and creating a better envirnment at Roper Lake SP. All for what? Why close the park now? Please let the citizens of Safford know if there is anything we can do to keep Roper Lake SP open. We are heartbroken. One of the last places available to enjoy with our children, that we enjoyed as children, has been taken away from us. Please consider keeping Roper Lake SP open. —Kelley, Safford, AZ
As a Vice President of Grapevine 7, Inc., the owning and operating corporation of 2 RV parks in Brenda, AZ, I felt I needed to write and explain that Alamo Lake is one of the few if not only state run park that draws folks to our small community. Many of our guests patronize Alamo, and I konw that the struggling communities of Wenden and Salome, also benefit from the lake. For some of the other water features in the state, there are other accesses that people can use even if a state park is shut down; such is not the case with Alamo. No one will be able to launch a boat to fish or recreate if the state park is closed. It is my understanding that this park actually is still in the black, which should demonstrate the local support and use of the lake. Therefore, I'd like to ask you to reconsider the closing of this state park. Thank you for hearing me. —Daniel, Salome, AZ
As a resident of Utah and a fairly frequent visitor to Arizona, I'd like to ask "what are you thinking closing those parks?" How much does Arizona receive from tourism in the state? How much advertising does Arizona do to attract tourists? Do you not realize that this sends a loud message that all this does not count? The state of Arizona is acting like a third world nation in closing these parks. You should reconsider this and restructure your budget to defray park costs.
The tab below -- marketing feedback -- is ironic. I arrived at your website by reading the unfavorable story in the SL Tribune. —Kate
I live in Ontario Canada and have covered almost all of North America on road trips. My husband and I love to hike and are planning a trip across the southern US this fall (2010). I have just read about the pending closure of Red Rock Park. It is one of the places I have not been to and I wonder if we will still be allowed access to the area in oder to hike or if it will be prohibited. Any info you can give me would be greatly appreciated and it would help us plan our trip. Thank you. —Elaine
When this park officially closes, does this mean there will be no public access to it at all?? I'm very displeased to hear this news. I visited Lost Dutchman recently and it was a great experience. —Steven
I am presently in the state of Arizona, as a Rver. we plan on being in the state for 3 or 4 months. We had planned on visiting several of your state parks and camping, but since you are closing so many of them we do not want to take a chance on trying to get into one and it being closed. I feel that your state is going about this all the wrong way, if you have these state parks bringing income into the state why close them and or raise up the rates so high that people will not visit them. We tried to stay in a state park in california on our way to your state but the nightly rate for the campground was so outrageous we did not stay in the park. also the campground had zero{0} campers in it, so I am assuming it was because the rate was so high. I do not know the solution to your problem but I think your state has become overloaded with so many expensive programs they are trying to support that you need to cut out a higher percentage of the programs that are total giveaways and reduce some expenditures on many other levels. thanks for your time. —Doug, Lebanon, OR
We have been eagerly anticipating our visit to your state parks and surrounding towns for our spring vacation this year and are saddened that so many of them are closing. We understand that this was a difficult decision for you based on economic realities. We wish you the best and hope that you will be able to reopen these parks at some future time so that we may visit and explore more of your state parks. Sincerely, —Jay & Betty
If the thirteen parks will be closing has the thought been entertained about having the private sector get involved with owning and operating the closed parks with oversight by the state? I am interested in Tombstone and Yuma. Thank you for your time. —Joel, Casa Grande, AZ
Of the parks that are closing, what will become of the parks? Will they close for a short time until the economy gets better or will it be sold to private concerns? —Ray, Tallahassee, FL
We purchased timeshare in Sedona in 2008 and have plans this year and in the future. We are extremely unhappy to learn about the closures of the State Parks. This will prevent future revenue for these cities. —Janis, Lafayette Hill, PA
Sorry about the park closings! Even though archaeological parks get closed, the need to secure and monitor these parks gets even more critical after the gates have been locked. —Paul
My husband and I recently visited Sedona and greatly enjoyed the Red Rock State park, hiking the trails and taking hikes with the tour guides at various places, including the Palatki ruins. We are planning to return to visit the park, and have told many of our friends to go visit Red Rock SP. Please do not close this park. It is a beautiful spot, and attracts so many to view our country's national treasures and beauty.
I am very shocked that this park is even being considered as one of the parks to close due to budget concerns. I am certain Arizona and the Sedona/Phoenix region will loose a lot of revenue from tourists, including my husband and I who are talking about returning in 2010. Very truly yours, —Maureen, Union, NJ
Not very bight about closing the state parks. Other than the Grand Canyon, I guess there is very little reason for anyone to visit Arizona. I hope a study that shows the drop in visitors to Arizona opens them back up again some year. I guess it was pointless to close the rest areas since that did very little to help. —Dean
I am devastated by the "loss" of our state parks. I am only an individual with limited resources, but I want to know how I can help. Volunteer? I've got the time. Money? I've got a little. IS THERE ANYTHING CAN WE DO AS INDIVIDUALS TO KEEP THE PARKS FROM CLOSING PERMANENTLY? WHAT ABOUT PROTECTING THOSE THAT ARE CLOSED FROM DAMAGE?Are there any "grassroots" efforts going on that I can become involved in? My husband and I enjoy the Arizona parks so much, I can't stand to think of losing them. —Marcia, Carefree, AZ
Is there not some way that this Tombstone Courthouse could remain open, with volunteers? This is not a difficult site to maintain, it's just a building? —Laura, Sierra Vista, AZ
after Red Rock closes - what does this mean about hiking the trails? Will they be closed off? —Laurel
Hello ASP Board, We write this letter to the ASP Board as a protest to the outrageous closing of the Arizona State Parks. The closing of the parks is outrageous simply because the parks have been so miss-managed over the years.
My wife and I are retired, fulltime RVers who spend our winters primarily in Arizona. For the last 10 plus years since retirement, we have been spending six weeks of our winter at Alamo Lake State Park. We spend the last two weeks of November and the period from February 15 through March 15th at the park.
As fulltimers, we travel extensively throughout the western USA and have stayed in state parks, Army Corp of Engineer parks, BLM parks and US forest campground in all our western states also including the Provincial Parks of Canada. We have served as Campground host for an extended time in Alaska. We were the only fulltime site occupants and only had occasional visits by staff rangers. It was a 69 site full service campground.
In my work career, I was a Business Strategist and customer relations advisor for a large manufacturing campus of a well known US manufacturer. My duties included customer identification and relations, business plans, objectives and measurement criteria. My duties also included cost and efficiency evaluations to insure the lowest cost to the customers.
I have observed tremendous differences in how states versus other organizations manage and run the parks and campgrounds across the country. From the very beginning, we observed a tremendous in-efficiency particularly in State Parks as compared to BLM, ACoE, and Forest Service parks and campgrounds. From the very beginning it was very obvious that the state parks are operated with extreme overhead cost as compared to the other parks and campgrounds. This was particularly true of Alamo Lake State Park. The number of fulltime staff (rangers), the benefits to that staff, the lack of day to day duties and supervision of that staff was appalling for anyone with even a minimal business background. There appears to be no quality control or measurement criteria for performance and efficiency. The number of state owned and maintained vehicles and equipment that typically sit idle versus contacting the infrequent needs is contrary to good business sense. The cost of providing housing for the fulltime staff alone would tax most typical campground budgets.
We have visited parks and campgrounds that manage and operate as big a park with no full time staff and only with volunteers with occasional visits and audits by district staff. We haven ‘ t seen any better service levels at ASPs that would justify the huge overhead cost.
It is a terrible breech in your responsibility to close these parks versus addressing the management and operation culture of them. It’ s not that the public is not using these parks and it’ s not because the public isn’ t paying a competitive rate for the services. It’ s strictly because of the management culture of the system. These parks could be contracted out to private management services with much lower overhead cost and a financial return to the state.
We would suggest to you that there is a much better way to manage and operate these parks that would not cost the state any money and would return a considerable amount of money back to the state coffers. There are even University level business schools that would be more than willing to help with a full evaluation and implementation of change. The BLM, ACoE and US Forest Service could serve as a model in many cases.
Again, we feel that you are not being responsive to the public who are using these parks to close them down. There is a much better approach that allows you to serve the very people that you are chartered to serve. Thanks so much for the opportunity to voice our observations. Respectfully, —LeRoy and Linda Hancock, Sioux Falls, SD
We were planning a week in Sedona starting the weekend of May 30. Will we be able to hike the park trails after the park closes? Thanks for your help. —Bonnie, Ames, IA
I am so disappointed to read of the closing of those state parks. Every fall since i retired in 2006, I've spent 4-6 weeks in my RV going from park to park in AZ. In doing so, I spend buying gas, food and souvenirs. I think the state is going to lose in the long run by this decision. —Carole, Layton, UT
I can't believe that this state has sunk so low to the bottom that they have chosen to close any of the state parks. With the economy in the toilet, many people can't afford to travel very far and the state parks are a great way to get away from home, and not have to travel long distances to enjoy themselves. I understand the place the state is in economically, but to take away the one thing that alot of us get great pleasure in is wrong. I have lived in Arizona for 51 years and have never seen this state in as big of a mess as it is now. So all I have to say is "thanks for nothing". —Diane
I read about the closures due to budget cuts. It’ s time for ‘ out of the box’ thinking. We are broke. The Feds are broke, and we keep spending money. In Indiana, they are not broke. The governor sold 80/90 interstate toll road and it is being run better than the feds or state could have. He has privatized a lot of state services, not unlike New Zealand. It works; you have competition, and better overall run facilities. Sell the AZ. State parks, or turn them over to private ‘ for profit’ management companies. Contractually you can maintain control and then the people who ACTUALLY use them will pay. Government does NOTHING efficiently. Let’ s be a state that has dynamic thinking and get some fiscal responsibility back. —Michael, Sedona, AZ
I am a Park Manager with Virginia State Parks and had the information about your park closures sent to me from our agency director. I just want to pass along to your staff that myself and my fellow park employees will keep all of you in our thoughts and prayers and are hoping for positive changes for your agency. We are pulling for all of you. Good luck. —Bruce, Virginia Beach, VA
I'm praying the parks will stay open. People are willing to work for nothing to keep them open. Why not take them up on it? This is one thing an entire family can do together. It keeps teens active and out of trouble. If they don't have the parks you know they'll find somewhere to get into trouble. Please reconsider. I believe people are willing to pay for this. Help us and let us know how we can help you. —June, Apache Junction, AZ
Re: Closure of archaeological parks. It is common law enforcement knowledge that an empty house is more likely to be vandalized. You are opening the door wide for "pot hunters" if these sites are not manned, whether open to the public or not!!!! —Jill
My husband and I are completely dismayed that Lost Dutchman is scheduled for closure. We love the amazing hiking trails found here. Once this park closes, will the public no longer have access to these trails? Is there anything we can do to prevent the park from closing? —Heidi
What will happen to the building when it closes due to budget reasons? —Gene
I am passionately opposed to what Gov. Brewer is doing. I am a writer. How can I help? Can you send me your profit vs. expense numbers? I've read them but can't find them now. And, tell me what citizens can do! —Lisa, Phoenix, AZ
To the State Parks Board members or to whom it may concern,
I am very disappointed in the legislature's decision to cut the State Parks so heavily. I know that you are being placed in an extremely difficult position. Please try to keep as many parks as possible open and do not sell off any of the state park properties. These parks are gems that have taken years to amass. If they are sold off, we will never get them back. They need to be held in trust for the next generation. State parks employees are a real treasure, too. They are good, hard working people and very professional and competent. This will be a difficult time for the board, as any decision will mean cuts somewhere. I know that you have to work within the budget constraints that you are given. I trust that you will make the right decision that best minimizes the impact of such drastic cuts. I just urge you to consider the impacts of your decision on employees and their families and to the other Arizona families that enjoy our State Parks. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely —Scott, Payson, AZ
Shame on thoes responsible for closing the parks. —John, Tempe, AZ
S.409 would result in the destruction of Oak Flat Campground ‘ by making the swap a done deal and taking it a step closer to being mined and certainly would negatively affect Devil’ s Canyon by resulting in the dewatering of this rich riparian area.
S.409: Includes appraisal language that virtually ensures a taxpayer rip-off. Allows Resolution Copper to do exploration under the Oak Flat Campground withdrawn area.
Oak Flat was withdrawn from mining for a reason ‘ to protect a recreation jewel in the middle of a mining district from further impacts of mining forever. This bill would not only undo those protections, but would set a dangerous precedent making all areas withdrawn from mining nationwide vulnerable to mining.
Removes the mandate for a replacement campground for Oak Flat.
Allows RCC to conduct any mining activities except for commercial production of minerals under Apache Leap.
I cannot attend the Board Meeting - If I not to allow this change.
We don’ t want to see parks close, but we do not want to see resources damaged because State Parks could not adequately protect the parks and also keep them open. We oppose further undermining and diverting the Heritage Fund. The board must support a new funding source or sources for Parks and should aggressively go after recovering Parks dollars that were diverted to other purposes at the legislature. —Gloria, Marana, AZ
Why doesn't the Arizona Park System have the state add a $5 fee to the license taps registration fee. Dedicate this money to only be used to support the State Park System. We do this in Washington now and it generates enough money to allow the state to continue operating it's state parks. My wife and I have volunteered on-sight at Arizona Parks and have not figured out why volunteers get free propane. Stop that practice. Most states don't allow that. Any questions just email me. I'm sure there is more that can be done to eliminate the need to close these valuable assets. Thank you. —Dennis, Lake Stevens, WA
do not want to see resources Please support a new funding sources for State Parks and to aggressively go after recovering Parks dollars that were diverted to other purposes at the legislature. Temporary closures may be best to put resource protection first.
Please oppose further undermining and diverting of the Heritage Fund. —Michael
We strongly urge you to reconsider your decision to close Alamo Lake State Park. This is the only park in our area that has access to camping & boating activities. Closure of this park will be a major economic blow to a large number of businesses in this area. While closing this park may assist in your budget it will have a detrimental effect on the overall economic recovery of many municipalities in our area of the state.
This park is a major attraction to many of the "Snow Birds" in this area. If there are no activities for these people they will not be coming back to Arizona and the whole state will suffer without this major source of income.
Thank you for your reconsideration. —Ed & Peri, Salome, AZ
In reviewing what the State Legislature has done with sweeping funds it has made me think about what I would do if I were to donate money to the Arizona State Parks. The reason I mention this is because of the fact that they took money that was donated specifically for the state parks. I would specify where and how the money was to be spent andat what park(s). If the money was not spent for the specified projects I would put in the donation that it be returned. What the legislature has done is to make people think about whether they even want to donate to the Park System since the money may not go for what the person intended. —James, Oconto Falls, WI
Please do not close Alamo Lake State Park. Alamo is one of the parks that did not lose a lot of money in their operations. This lake brings much needed money to our remote area. —Sharon, Bouse, AZ
Please do not close this park. It contributes a great deal to the income of the local businesses when the people come through to visit the lake. It is also a beautiful area to visit for the local people and take their children campling and fishing. It would really be bad to close it. Please keep it open. —Charlene, Salome, AZ
Really all parks...Arizona needs tourist...it is essential to our economy...this is the old "bite your tongue to spite your nose" answer to our budget problem.
The governor and her assistants could take a dollar a year until the economy turns around and that would easily support keeping the parks in our state open. Seriously, the idea of closing the parks is miss guided, and Wenden, gateway to Alamo Park is totally dependent on the traffic generated by visitors. Shuttering the parks gives the State very little in savings and creates a whole lot of hardship. Please pass this on to whomever you can to keep our parks open. Thank you. —Sharon, Salome, AZ
I have lived and suported the comunnity here for 12 years. Please don't close Alamo park. It would be economically and recreationally disaterous to our area. It's our only reasonably close state park. Thank you for understanding, Search & Rescue (volunteer) —Erik, Salome, AZ
First I would like to say I would really like to be at this Friday morning meeting but due to the fact I have to be a work, I can't. Now, I am agast at the situation in our state. But, closing our parks is nothing but more of a disaster for our state. I am a REALTOR, and one of the reasons for my clients coming here and buying, or renting, is because of our recreation. Closing our parks will give other states an advantage we won't have. Our parks our beautiful. Closing our parks and not having services or maintanance is going to kill them. It will allow riff raft and others to go in to use our parks and hurt them. It's hard to maintain them now and we have a little of bit of staff. I love our parks and use them, and protect them when I use them. The people spoke to have the Heritage money be for the parks. That is what the funds should go for. PLEASE DON'T CLOSE OUR PARKS. THANK YOU. —Linda, Scottsdale, AZ
I am devastated at the recent cuts agreed to and proposed for Arizona's state parks. I would gladly *increase* my own taxes if it meant better environmental and conservation protections for Arizona. Please do not cut the parks budget further, and know that Arizonans support conservation! Thanks. —Renee, Phoenix, AZ
My concern is the economic impact it will have on the closure. Being that it is owned by the Corp of Engineers, would it be possible to keep it open under their operation? Small communities such as ours cannot afford to lose this wonderful tourist attraction. —Jim & Denise, Salome, AZ
Alamo Lake SP should NOT be closed. It would have too much of an impact on persons who depend on that area for their livelihood. Some of the people in the area could well become destitute and have to draw off of other State Programs. Please consider this before taking defninite action on closing this SP. —Michael, Salome, AZ
This park is a great part of our family recreation and a draw for tourists to our otherwise small economy. WE NEED IT KEPT OPEN!!!!! —Judi, Salome, AZ
Please do not close Alamo Lake State Park.
This recreation area is enjoyed year round by residents and visitors alike. Please keep this one open for sure. Thank you. —Teena, Salome, AZ
The Gila Valley is already facing a loss of jobs and a depressed economy. Roper Lake brings many visitors to our valley as well as giving our rural community a nice park. We have many volunteers that assist and could find even more, but to lose those jobs and the park will be a blow to our community. Thank you. —Paula
Closing Homolovi SP without providing for the protection of the cultural resources the Park is meant to preserve would be a tragedy. I understand the budgetary constraints the state finds itself under, but this should not be an excuse to abrogate all responsibility and we have a responsibility to preserve these unique and important sites. The public would be best served by open parks, if that can't be managed, then at least put in place a plan to protect them. —Robert, Arizona
DO NOT CLOSE OUR PARK> Alamo State Park provides a big economic impact on our large rural community. People passing through the area on their way to Alamo Lake provide economic viability to the community. —Barbara, Salome, AZ
Please do not close down Alamo State Park. It will have a very adverse affect on our local economy. This was one state park that did not lose a ton of money. There will be no other good access to the lake if it closes. —Kim, Wenden, AZ
Park Board--Part of the economical salvation of the Salome, Wendon area is the Almo Lake SP. To close the part will have an impact on this area .. Thanks for you consideration in not closing the park. Sincerely —David, Salome, AZ
Please do not close Alamo Lake State Park. This is a major attraction for permanent residents as well as winter visitors of Aguila, Wenden, Salome, Brenda, and Quartzsite. Our family usually buys our annual parks pass at Alamo Lake. Please reconsider it's closure! —Carolyn, Salome, AZ
PLEASE do not close Catalina State Park. It is a priceless resouce to equestrians, who use it several times a week. Thank you, —Tanis Salant, Tucson, AZ
Please forward this message to the members of the board. THank you. An additional idea to bear in mind about Red Rock State Park is that its gift shop has long been a good source of income that should have always gone back into the park system. Keeping RRSP open also means that its gift shop is open and is a source of revenue in addition to entrance fees. Sincerely, —Charlotte and Dixon, Sedona, AZ
comments: Please be advised that Alamo Lake plays a big part in the tourist business for Salome and Wenden. Closing this attraction will have a further negative impact on our economy, when things are already in the dump. —Arthur, Salome, AZ
To: All Members of the Arizona State Parks Board Subject: January 15, 2010. AGENDA - Proposed Closure of State Parks Greetings. I am writing this letter in response to the printed Agenda items listed for the January 15th Board meeting in which you will be discussing the closing of various state park sites. While we are all faced with dire economic circumstances, personal and organizational, I implore you to first seek additional funding to KEEP THE STATE PARKS OPEN. I encourage you to investigate using non-traditional revenue sources such as the newly created Federal Economic Stimulus program, private foundations, higher park usage fees, greater use of volunteers, the staggering of dates for short term closings, and the like. I encourage each Board member to delay final action on the item of park closings until the addition level of support that such funding sources can generate may be fully evaluated. In addition, the risk of vandalism to the fragile archaeological materials, glyphs, and infrastructure located at each of the parks will likely increase if on-site active care is not provided. Keeping the parks open greatly helps to protect the priceless artifacts as a flow of good public ‘ eyes’ will significantly augment the care provided by your staff members. It is perhaps the very best way to preserve for all time the unique materials found at each location. I wonder, when this financial crunch passes and monies are again flowing normally will the integrity of each park still be intact? Or will short term closings lead to permanent destruction of priceless antiquities? On a personal level, in 2009 I began researching one very significant petroglyph at the Lyman Lake site. This specific image has been previously dated to about AD 500 and it is highly curious as it integrates into its overall design a complex (far beyond pure chance) ideographic detail from the small seal style of ancient Chinese calligraphy (typically used from 200 BC - AD 450.) It is my desire to return to Lyman Lake this spring, and if need be again in the summer, to search for additional examples of this significant glyph along the Ultimate Petroglyph Trail as I was not able to cross the river during my last visit. If the Lyman Lake site is closed to the public as is suggested in the Agenda, (I note this park is one of the sites which would require very little additional revenue to keep open.) HOW MIGHT I ARRANGE FOR A DAY OF ACCESS TO LYMAN LAKE PARK SO THAT I MAY CONCLUDE RESEARCHING ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE RIVER? Finally, I do not envy the role of the Board members in deciding the immediate fate of the properties entrusted to them. Certainly, it will be a hard decision to live with if a vote for the closing any of the parks for strictly financial reasons leads to its demise in even the smallest way. Very Best Wishes. Sincerely —Dr. John Ruskamp, Jr., MBA, Naperville, Illinois